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		<title>By: fredflinstone</title>
		<link>http://pokertipsnstrategies.com/online-poker/why-online-poker-is-not-rigged/03/comment-page-3/#comment-41938</link>
		<dc:creator>fredflinstone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, absolute bullshit, the best thing that could happen for Poker now would be a permanent worldwide online ban, shut this bullshit down !!!
Its served its purpose, got millions of fish hooked, now lets cut out the middle man and force these guys to find a real game or start one, whatever, just get their cash on a real world table, real games are where its at, online poker is the biggest load of bullshit ever and anybody who doesn't know that is either blind, stupid or a fucking fish.

yabbadabbadoo..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, absolute bullshit, the best thing that could happen for Poker now would be a permanent worldwide online ban, shut this bullshit down !!!<br />
Its served its purpose, got millions of fish hooked, now lets cut out the middle man and force these guys to find a real game or start one, whatever, just get their cash on a real world table, real games are where its at, online poker is the biggest load of bullshit ever and anybody who doesn&#8217;t know that is either blind, stupid or a fucking fish.</p>
<p>yabbadabbadoo..</p>
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		<title>By: BSonlinepoker</title>
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		<dc:creator>BSonlinepoker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 05:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh ya forgot to mention the amount of times I see AA, KK, JJ or QQ all in one pot and everyone one to be all in only to have the guy with 33 or 22 or 72 when the pot (chip leader or the guy that the BB forced all in) .. I think in 1 year playing at the casino and home games I have seen that 3 times. Whereas I looked back in my hand history and have seen it 7 times in 1 month at FT and 5 times at PS..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh ya forgot to mention the amount of times I see AA, KK, JJ or QQ all in one pot and everyone one to be all in only to have the guy with 33 or 22 or 72 when the pot (chip leader or the guy that the BB forced all in) .. I think in 1 year playing at the casino and home games I have seen that 3 times. Whereas I looked back in my hand history and have seen it 7 times in 1 month at FT and 5 times at PS..</p>
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		<title>By: BSonlinepoker</title>
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		<dc:creator>BSonlinepoker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 05:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am done with online poker it is rigged, It is bad when you are all in and you can call the outcome 80% of the time before the river hits the board. 

I am sick of getting knocked out by the table chip leaders calling a 6X bb out of position with crap like Q3o, 72s, 34o or A6o, they will call you down to the river with A rag thinking their A is golden and nailing their flush and straights or 2 pair on the river all the time or one outing you.

Variance my A$$ I played 10 tourneys this weekend all being knocked out the same way, 5 at FTP and 5 on PS. I have QQ, KK, AA or AKs and or AQs. I am in position and it’s been checked to me so I raise 4-6x bb sure enough chip leader calls with rages in early position. Most of the time I hit trips or top 2 pairs on the flop but they always hit flushes or straights with 2 runners or one out ya on the river to knock me out. 

Here is an example, I have AhAc and I am BB, the table chip leader under the gun has Qd5h, check is to me I bet 6x bb chip leader calls,  flop Kh,5D,7D I raise it 4000 close to ¾ of the pot after it was checked to me he calls the other 2 fold. Turn Ad I push all in with 7000, the chip leader calls with a pair 5 and now a flush draw. I type in real quick d on the river GG. Sure enough 6d on the river. I watched the table 7 more hands chip leader pulled that crap 5 more times to knock out 5 more players.. 

Variance BS 10 times in a row that is not variance. I can go back in my hand histories and look at the tourneys and cash games that end this way it is almost 60% of the time. That is not Variance my live play is not even close to that bad, sure in 4 hrs play I may get 2 bad beats and in 1 month maybe knocked out of a ring or cash game 3 times due to someone making a bad call, but not with the consistency I get online. 

I am done with online poker time to build my live bankroll up since I build it up at about at a rate of 20 – 35% or $10/hr - $16/hr on average for ring games that I play at the casino. I place in the money in tourneys 60% of the time with a +ROI of round 15% not great but better than placing 20% of the time in the money online and have a –ROI. There should not be that much of a difference between live play and online play since my game play does not change.

It is simple online is rigged to induce action and come tourneys to eliminate enough to keep a good number of people re-entering tourneys or cash games. Sick of it and I am done with online poker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am done with online poker it is rigged, It is bad when you are all in and you can call the outcome 80% of the time before the river hits the board. </p>
<p>I am sick of getting knocked out by the table chip leaders calling a 6X bb out of position with crap like Q3o, 72s, 34o or A6o, they will call you down to the river with A rag thinking their A is golden and nailing their flush and straights or 2 pair on the river all the time or one outing you.</p>
<p>Variance my A$$ I played 10 tourneys this weekend all being knocked out the same way, 5 at FTP and 5 on PS. I have QQ, KK, AA or AKs and or AQs. I am in position and it’s been checked to me so I raise 4-6x bb sure enough chip leader calls with rages in early position. Most of the time I hit trips or top 2 pairs on the flop but they always hit flushes or straights with 2 runners or one out ya on the river to knock me out. </p>
<p>Here is an example, I have AhAc and I am BB, the table chip leader under the gun has Qd5h, check is to me I bet 6x bb chip leader calls,  flop Kh,5D,7D I raise it 4000 close to ¾ of the pot after it was checked to me he calls the other 2 fold. Turn Ad I push all in with 7000, the chip leader calls with a pair 5 and now a flush draw. I type in real quick d on the river GG. Sure enough 6d on the river. I watched the table 7 more hands chip leader pulled that crap 5 more times to knock out 5 more players.. </p>
<p>Variance BS 10 times in a row that is not variance. I can go back in my hand histories and look at the tourneys and cash games that end this way it is almost 60% of the time. That is not Variance my live play is not even close to that bad, sure in 4 hrs play I may get 2 bad beats and in 1 month maybe knocked out of a ring or cash game 3 times due to someone making a bad call, but not with the consistency I get online. </p>
<p>I am done with online poker time to build my live bankroll up since I build it up at about at a rate of 20 – 35% or $10/hr - $16/hr on average for ring games that I play at the casino. I place in the money in tourneys 60% of the time with a +ROI of round 15% not great but better than placing 20% of the time in the money online and have a –ROI. There should not be that much of a difference between live play and online play since my game play does not change.</p>
<p>It is simple online is rigged to induce action and come tourneys to eliminate enough to keep a good number of people re-entering tourneys or cash games. Sick of it and I am done with online poker.</p>
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		<title>By: 2tight</title>
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		<dc:creator>2tight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2011 08:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please...anyone who does not realize online poker is a joke is merely lying to themselves. First of all, anytime you cannot actually SEE the cards being dealt, NOBODY can say it's legit. Online poker is the equivalent of playing poker over the phone. Someone you don't know, in a place you can't seem to find with Google Earth, is telling you your hand and what the board is showing. What? You think because you can see the cards by video that it's real? ROFLMAO. I photoshopped myself into a sex scene with Pam Anderson...(more than once). 
I want to vomit with the endless stream of excuses people make in order to lie to themselves about online poker. Here are the 2 most commonly used:
1) "You see more hands so it seems like more bad beats". Here a novel concept from the past...GET a PEN and some PAPER and track every hand you play or watch being played. I did this over one month's play.
The all in good wins less than 10% regardless of the drawing odds.
Runner Runner winner is a less than a 1 in 52 chance of hitting. During my tracking it hit at over 40%
Over 50% of online hand winners were determined by the river...regardless of drawing odds.
90% of river cards made the trailing hand the winner.
2) What does the site benefit by rigging it.
If you don't get this one you must never own a business or you have a job in government.
I have played poker for over 25 years. About 10% of players out there truly possess the skill set needed to be regularly successful in poker. This leaves 90% of all poker players lacking the tools needed to win. If you own a poker site do you want 10% of your customers happy? or 90%? Since there are more bad players than good these poker sites have to manipulate the programs to favor weaker play. I players win according to their skill set most internet players would stop playing. If these sites lose 90% of their players because they can't win then how do they stay in business?
Online sites only make money if the bad play wins consistently...period.
Play online if you like but don't ever dream it's fair or reflects your skill...because it's not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please&#8230;anyone who does not realize online poker is a joke is merely lying to themselves. First of all, anytime you cannot actually SEE the cards being dealt, NOBODY can say it&#8217;s legit. Online poker is the equivalent of playing poker over the phone. Someone you don&#8217;t know, in a place you can&#8217;t seem to find with Google Earth, is telling you your hand and what the board is showing. What? You think because you can see the cards by video that it&#8217;s real? ROFLMAO. I photoshopped myself into a sex scene with Pam Anderson&#8230;(more than once).<br />
I want to vomit with the endless stream of excuses people make in order to lie to themselves about online poker. Here are the 2 most commonly used:<br />
1) &#8220;You see more hands so it seems like more bad beats&#8221;. Here a novel concept from the past&#8230;GET a PEN and some PAPER and track every hand you play or watch being played. I did this over one month&#8217;s play.<br />
The all in good wins less than 10% regardless of the drawing odds.<br />
Runner Runner winner is a less than a 1 in 52 chance of hitting. During my tracking it hit at over 40%<br />
Over 50% of online hand winners were determined by the river&#8230;regardless of drawing odds.<br />
90% of river cards made the trailing hand the winner.<br />
2) What does the site benefit by rigging it.<br />
If you don&#8217;t get this one you must never own a business or you have a job in government.<br />
I have played poker for over 25 years. About 10% of players out there truly possess the skill set needed to be regularly successful in poker. This leaves 90% of all poker players lacking the tools needed to win. If you own a poker site do you want 10% of your customers happy? or 90%? Since there are more bad players than good these poker sites have to manipulate the programs to favor weaker play. I players win according to their skill set most internet players would stop playing. If these sites lose 90% of their players because they can&#8217;t win then how do they stay in business?<br />
Online sites only make money if the bad play wins consistently&#8230;period.<br />
Play online if you like but don&#8217;t ever dream it&#8217;s fair or reflects your skill&#8230;because it&#8217;s not.</p>
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		<title>By: gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 20:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bs bs bs   every hand that has a potentail to be  big  in other words for one player to tilt   the  brd will  come to save the day.what i mean is if u call against it then you are a donk.Right?? notice all the pairs and striaghts that come when a player could double  up.they dont want good players to get a bankroll .that means they can get away from hands.furthermore a good player will fold to the board therby allowing more hands to raked. a bunch of nonsense to think its fair.its all about keeping u there and trading players money back in forth so that in the long run the rake for the site is the winner.house never loses.  gaaurnetee that in ring games if a player gets over a certain percentage something trips the rng .thats why they never allow auduting of the programs.yes i have bad beat somebody  yes it has happened to me  thats poker but watch the ring games and see the boards  they are never clean.yes someone will bluff those boards but to call aginst it and lose  that only promotes denialbility on the sites part.  all lies  lies n more lies   gl trying to circumvent the rake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bs bs bs   every hand that has a potentail to be  big  in other words for one player to tilt   the  brd will  come to save the day.what i mean is if u call against it then you are a donk.Right?? notice all the pairs and striaghts that come when a player could double  up.they dont want good players to get a bankroll .that means they can get away from hands.furthermore a good player will fold to the board therby allowing more hands to raked. a bunch of nonsense to think its fair.its all about keeping u there and trading players money back in forth so that in the long run the rake for the site is the winner.house never loses.  gaaurnetee that in ring games if a player gets over a certain percentage something trips the rng .thats why they never allow auduting of the programs.yes i have bad beat somebody  yes it has happened to me  thats poker but watch the ring games and see the boards  they are never clean.yes someone will bluff those boards but to call aginst it and lose  that only promotes denialbility on the sites part.  all lies  lies n more lies   gl trying to circumvent the rake.</p>
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